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turtlelol · May 22, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Hey guys my bro bought WoW and ive had it for a few months now and its not my cup of tea. The leveling just takes too long and its all basically filler until u get to 70, all u do is quest and the quest is pointless and takes too much time. i think i would like this more because the max level is 20 and its easy to get too and much less time consuming so u can get into the action much faster. im more of a casual player and dont have time to level that much, + its free. I know this is a GW forum so im not gonna ask which one is better, i just wanna know the difference in it. for those who have played both how does the pace of each game compare to each other? is GW a faster paced game? So there's no world pvp right? so i cant just run around and kill people? also if i buy only of the games..lets say the latest one i can play it but can i play the other classes? like the normal ones and the assassin from the 2nd expansion? but if i only get the latest one then i cant go into the other worlds correct? whats the most played class and the most noob friendly class? i have more questions but these r the ones at the top of my head.

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also how hard is obtaining good gear in this game? im a past d2 player and boy it took countless runs.

Maca · May 22, 2008, 07:45 AM // 07:45

There are lot of almost the same questions here. But let me answer you as much as I can, I played both and actually got to 70 in WOW, well GW is nothing like that, you can get to 20 in few days ( if you know the game) or in few weeks in your case. It's the same thing as in wow game doesnt end when you get to 20, you have some elite areas and such, but nothing time consuming or stupidly hard as in wow. There is no world pvp, only arenas, guild vs guild etc, you ll figure that out yourself, and no you can't just run around and kill ppl, game is like instance, when you leave the town only you and your party are there, you can only meet other players in towns.
If you buy only one game you can only play classes that are available in that chapter, so if let's say you dont get NF you won't be able to play paragon and derivsh, and if you dont get faction you wont be able to play assasin and ritualist, and no you cant go to other worlds, you are right there. What is the most played class I really cant say, all classes from Prophecies I guess ( 1st GW chapter), most noob class hmm maybe warrior, but that's a more of a myth

Gear is something you dont need to worry in GW, since all armor at max lvl have same AL and with runes and insing. ( which are pretty cheap) you can make status you wish, for a very little money. There is elite armor which is more expensive, but the only thing that makes it different than the cheaper verision is looks, so if you want to look nice you ll have to spend a bit more money and that can take a bit more time, but its nothing compering to wow

Hope this helps.

tmakinen · May 22, 2008, 07:46 AM // 07:46

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Originally Posted by turtlelol

is GW a faster paced game?

Definitely. Concerning character development you can get from zero to max level in one day if experienced, or in a couple of weeks if very casual and enjoying the scenery on the way there. Concerning actual gameplay, all skills have relatively fast casting and recharge times. A typical special attack skill might be usable every fourth attack, a typical high damage spell might take 2 seconds to cast and 20 to recharge before being available again. The longest cycle is 2 minutes for some avatar of god forms (and those are nothing like 'godmode').

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So there's no world pvp right? so i cant just run around and kill people?

GW PvP is more structured. There are several different types of PvP but they are all based on teams of equal size and level fighting each other. GW is first and foremost a team game like, say, football. Each player has an assigned task and going on a solo rampage is an excellent way to lose the match for your team.

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also if i buy only of the games..lets say the latest one i can play it but can i play the other classes? like the normal ones and the assassin from the 2nd expansion? but if i only get the latest one then i cant go into the other worlds correct?

There are 3 main campaigns (Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall) and 1 expansion (Eye of the North). In each campaign you can create any of the core classes (E, Me, Mo, N, R and W). In addition to that, in Factions you can create A or Rt, and in Nightfall D or P. Your characters are restricted to those areas that you have bought on your account, so if you only buy Nightfall (the last standalone area) you can't make an A or visit the Factions game area until you buy Factions as well.

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whats the most played class and the most noob friendly class?

Most played is probably W, and it's one of the 'easy to get into' classes as well. Other easy classes are (IMHO) E and P. Stay clear of specialist classes like A or Me until you have a good understanding on game mechanics.

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also how hard is obtaining good gear in this game? im a past d2 player and boy it took countless runs.

Perfect armor and weapons is trivially easy to come by. The power of your GW character is not in the gear but in the skills it possesses and how they are used.

turtlelol · May 22, 2008, 07:58 AM // 07:58

Interesting, so when u leave town the only people outside in the world is you and ur party if u have one? but in town u can see everyone and thats where u can battle each other in the arena or something right? so u can only pvp in certain places? also are there auction houses to buy stuff and sell? whats the main currency, gold or trading items. the reason im interest in this is because i dont like countless hours farming for crap and leveling, i just wanna get into the action and start killing stuff and have fun. also lets say im not in a guild can i queue in a arena game or some pvp style thing that the game has or do i have to be in a guild to do the pvp events? like in WoW theres battlegrounds where u get team up with random people ya know?

arsie · May 22, 2008, 08:17 AM // 08:17

This game is different from most other MMO because the developers endeavour to have a level playing field for PvP. Hence, max stat weapons and armour are relatively easy to acquire.

You can customise your armour and weapons to suit your playing style and needs. You may need to farm a bit for the weapon and armour mods, or the gold to buy them with. The main reason why people farm gear and gold is to get certain skins for weapons and armour, but the stats are the same.

You can PvP in a variety of arenas. 4v4 random, 4v4 team, 8v8 guild, 12v12 random/team alliance battles. This depends on the campaign you have.

If you play about 2 hrs a day, you can reach max level and have max equipment in a month, you will likely to be able to complete one the chapters in normal mode too.

You only need a guild to play Alliance Battles and Guild Battles. You can be in on the action before you reach max level, but because of how easy it is to get to max level, those lower level arenas tend to be empty.

It's different from other MMO games, so keep an open mind of what to expect.

Maca · May 22, 2008, 08:22 AM // 08:22

One thing to add: there is no Auction house in guild wars

So if you want to buy or sell something you will have to spam it in "trade towns" ( there are few of thems in game) or you can sell and buy here on forum.

tmakinen · May 22, 2008, 08:33 AM // 08:33

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Originally Posted by turtlelol

Interesting, so when u leave town the only people outside in the world is you and ur party if u have one?

Don't forget the monsters

but yes, basically, all of PvE happens in instanced explorables. The original idea was to prevent griefing and some other negative phenomena. An upside is that you are not restricted to any particular server. Instead, there's just one big game world and you can freely hop between servers with your existing characters to play with your friends wherever they are.

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but in town u can see everyone and thats where u can battle each other in the arena or something right? so u can only pvp in certain places?

Yes, you can interact (but not fight!) with other people in towns. PvP battles (mostly) happen on a separate area that can be accessed from every campaign. That area contains towns where you can join a team and go fight other teams on separate arenas.

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also are there auction houses to buy stuff and sell? whats the main currency, gold or trading items.

Despite numerous pleas GW doesn't have any auction house, and that's one of its biggest shortcomings, so you're forced to trade directly in towns. Gold and platinum (1 platinum = 1000 gold) is the standard currency with ectoplasm (AKA ecto, an expensive crafting material at around 5 platinum a piece) used for high value items.

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also lets say im not in a guild can i queue in a arena game or some pvp style thing that the game has or do i have to be in a guild to do the pvp events? like in WoW theres battlegrounds where u get team up with random people ya know?

The only form of PvP that requires a guild is (naturally) Guild vs Guild but it will be easier to find a group if you are in a PvP oriented guild. There is Random Arena where 2 teams of 4 random players beat each other, that's the shallow end of the PvP pool and not terribly recommended. Because of the team aspect of all GW PvP you should really try to find a guild if you want to do some PvP. That, or Hero Battles where you and 3 heroes (NPCs whose skills and actions you can control) of your choice fight another player and his/her 3 heroes.

turtlelol · May 22, 2008, 08:37 AM // 08:37

Cool thx fellas, i think i might pick this up. wow was my first mmo and it seems im liking this, it seems to have more of a d2 feel to it, i like d2 over wow, that game just takes way to long for me and i rather be doing something else. i only wish there was a free trial lol. im thinking of picking up the latest one, or should i try the first one?

Breakfast Mc Rit · May 22, 2008, 08:39 AM // 08:39

The game can be very fast paced in relation to reaching level 20 depending on the game you choose. Factions being the fastest while Guild Wars/Prophecies is very slow unless you know the right people. Factions and Nightfall offer the best gear early in the game, while the other game, again, takes a bit more time unless you find someone to get you to the later areas (which can be expensive in itself and I wouldn't advise it for a new player.)

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Interesting, so when u leave town the only people outside in the world is you and ur party if u have one? but in town u can see everyone and thats where u can battle each other in the arena or something right? so u can only pvp in certain places?

If you're really interested in PvP, you might like Factions or Nightfall. They are the easiest of the 3 campaigns and offer two different PvP modes: Alliance Battles and Hero Battles respectively.

Creating a PvP character would fling you directly into the PvP world (the Random Arenas are available to everyone from the start), but IMHO, that'd probably leave you with a sour experience. Alliance Battles are the most forgiving of all the PvP modes, in my opinion, and would allow you to "run around and kill people" much to the chagrin of your teammates. :P

turtlelol · May 22, 2008, 08:41 AM // 08:41

i also like how the level cap is low, i just wanna get to max power quick and stop
pointless grinding. another reason why i dont like wow takes waaay too long and its all filler until u get to 70. it took my bro 5 months to get to 70...

Tosha · May 22, 2008, 09:14 AM // 09:14

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Originally Posted by turtlelol

Cool thx fellas, i think i might pick this up. wow was my first mmo and it seems im liking this, it seems to have more of a d2 feel to it, i like d2 over wow, that game just takes way to long for me and i rather be doing something else. i only wish there was a free trial lol. im thinking of picking up the latest one, or should i try the first one?

There is a free trial. Somewhere on this forum is a thread, where you can ask for trial keys *roams through Guru*
Here it is:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10067073

There you can get a key from another player to try the game for 10 days or 14 hours.

Highlander Of Alba · May 22, 2008, 09:54 AM // 09:54

Rather than go over a lot of previous post reiterating what they said

The game is good and you said a D2 (you mean to say you never got a run in closed)

I think you will enjoy the game and its a level playing field as far as skills go
no editors here.....(not like Open D2)

I would advise tho to play through the storyline to become accustomed to gameplay and leveling....

there are a lot of ex D2 guys who play including myself ..as far as gear goes

Max armour is max armour(no best)only the cost...as for looks ect.

Buy obtaining better weapons,insignas , runes to improve your standing and Elite skills also to compliment your skill bar .I think you will enjoy the game

turtlelol · May 22, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

one last question. i heard u cant jump in this game? is it true?

Mr. G · May 22, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

It is true, but I can think of many good games where you cant jump...

jumping in online games always makes me retch, to much CS/BF i guess, this game doesnt have a Z axis though, which jumping or not - sucks hard

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also how hard is obtaining good gear in this game? im a past d2 player and boy it took countless runs.

depends on your definition of "good" if you mean "Most damage/Most reductions/Fastest" etc, its very easy, if you mean "Flashiest/Most expensive/biggest e-peen" its harder

at a certain point weapons and characters no longer get any "stronger" from then on its all down to you skill and playstyle rather than your equipment

however there are better looking items with the same stats as the crappier easier to get ones, but purly for show - same goes for armour

May 22, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52	#1
turtlelol Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2008	New here, thinking about getting this game, a few questions. Hey guys my bro bought WoW and ive had it for a few months now and its not my cup of tea. The leveling just takes too long and its all basically filler until u get to 70, all u do is quest and the quest is pointless and takes too much time. i think i would like this more because the max level is 20 and its easy to get too and much less time consuming so u can get into the action much faster. im more of a casual player and dont have time to level that much, + its free. I know this is a GW forum so im not gonna ask which one is better, i just wanna know the difference in it. for those who have played both how does the pace of each game compare to each other? is GW a faster paced game? So there's no world pvp right? so i cant just run around and kill people? also if i buy only of the games..lets say the latest one i can play it but can i play the other classes? like the normal ones and the assassin from the 2nd expansion? but if i only get the latest one then i cant go into the other worlds correct? whats the most played class and the most noob friendly class? i have more questions but these r the ones at the top of my head. edit also how hard is obtaining good gear in this game? im a past d2 player and boy it took countless runs. Last edited by turtlelol; May 22, 2008 at 07:03 AM // 07:03..

May 22, 2008, 07:58 AM // 07:58	#4
turtlelol Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2008	Interesting, so when u leave town the only people outside in the world is you and ur party if u have one? but in town u can see everyone and thats where u can battle each other in the arena or something right? so u can only pvp in certain places? also are there auction houses to buy stuff and sell? whats the main currency, gold or trading items. the reason im interest in this is because i dont like countless hours farming for crap and leveling, i just wanna get into the action and start killing stuff and have fun. also lets say im not in a guild can i queue in a arena game or some pvp style thing that the game has or do i have to be in a guild to do the pvp events? like in WoW theres battlegrounds where u get team up with random people ya know? Last edited by turtlelol; May 22, 2008 at 08:06 AM // 08:06..

May 22, 2008, 07:45 AM // 07:45	#2
Maca Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Guardians Of The Stars Profession: Me/Mo	There are lot of almost the same questions here. But let me answer you as much as I can, I played both and actually got to 70 in WOW, well GW is nothing like that, you can get to 20 in few days ( if you know the game) or in few weeks in your case. It's the same thing as in wow game doesnt end when you get to 20, you have some elite areas and such, but nothing time consuming or stupidly hard as in wow. There is no world pvp, only arenas, guild vs guild etc, you ll figure that out yourself, and no you can't just run around and kill ppl, game is like instance, when you leave the town only you and your party are there, you can only meet other players in towns. If you buy only one game you can only play classes that are available in that chapter, so if let's say you dont get NF you won't be able to play paragon and derivsh, and if you dont get faction you wont be able to play assasin and ritualist, and no you cant go to other worlds, you are right there. What is the most played class I really cant say, all classes from Prophecies I guess ( 1st GW chapter), most noob class hmm maybe warrior, but that's a more of a myth Gear is something you dont need to worry in GW, since all armor at max lvl have same AL and with runes and insing. ( which are pretty cheap) you can make status you wish, for a very little money. There is elite armor which is more expensive, but the only thing that makes it different than the cheaper verision is looks, so if you want to look nice you ll have to spend a bit more money and that can take a bit more time, but its nothing compering to wow Hope this helps.

May 22, 2008, 08:17 AM // 08:17	#5
arsie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Profession: N/	This game is different from most other MMO because the developers endeavour to have a level playing field for PvP. Hence, max stat weapons and armour are relatively easy to acquire. You can customise your armour and weapons to suit your playing style and needs. You may need to farm a bit for the weapon and armour mods, or the gold to buy them with. The main reason why people farm gear and gold is to get certain skins for weapons and armour, but the stats are the same. You can PvP in a variety of arenas. 4v4 random, 4v4 team, 8v8 guild, 12v12 random/team alliance battles. This depends on the campaign you have. If you play about 2 hrs a day, you can reach max level and have max equipment in a month, you will likely to be able to complete one the chapters in normal mode too. You only need a guild to play Alliance Battles and Guild Battles. You can be in on the action before you reach max level, but because of how easy it is to get to max level, those lower level arenas tend to be empty. It's different from other MMO games, so keep an open mind of what to expect.

May 22, 2008, 08:22 AM // 08:22	#6
Maca Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Guardians Of The Stars Profession: Me/Mo	One thing to add: there is no Auction house in guild wars So if you want to buy or sell something you will have to spam it in "trade towns" ( there are few of thems in game) or you can sell and buy here on forum.

May 22, 2008, 08:37 AM // 08:37	#8
turtlelol Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2008	Cool thx fellas, i think i might pick this up. wow was my first mmo and it seems im liking this, it seems to have more of a d2 feel to it, i like d2 over wow, that game just takes way to long for me and i rather be doing something else. i only wish there was a free trial lol. im thinking of picking up the latest one, or should i try the first one?

May 22, 2008, 08:41 AM // 08:41	#10
turtlelol Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2008	i also like how the level cap is low, i just wanna get to max power quick and stop pointless grinding. another reason why i dont like wow takes waaay too long and its all filler until u get to 70. it took my bro 5 months to get to 70...

May 22, 2008, 09:54 AM // 09:54	#12
Highlander Of Alba Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Real Rogue Clan Profession: Rt/Mo	Rather than go over a lot of previous post reiterating what they said The game is good and you said a D2 (you mean to say you never got a run in closed) I think you will enjoy the game and its a level playing field as far as skills go no editors here.....(not like Open D2) I would advise tho to play through the storyline to become accustomed to gameplay and leveling.... there are a lot of ex D2 guys who play including myself ..as far as gear goes Max armour is max armour(no best)only the cost...as for looks ect. Buy obtaining better weapons,insignas , runes to improve your standing and Elite skills also to compliment your skill bar .I think you will enjoy the game

May 22, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23	#13
turtlelol Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2008	one last question. i heard u cant jump in this game? is it true?